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	<title>Comments on: A Church of Small Groups? Or Just Community?</title>
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	<description>Missional Living in Suburban America</description>
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		<title>By: Larry</title>
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		<dc:creator>Larry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 May 2008 22:25:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We loved this posting...over the past twenty years I cant tell you how many times we felt at the periphery of a church body because we did not join a small group. We had community daily with a variety of churched and unchurched folks,  but if we couldnt commit to a formal small group every week, we werent considered really part of things at a church. One size rarely fits all, especially with 4 young kids and one hour work commutes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We loved this posting&#8230;over the past twenty years I cant tell you how many times we felt at the periphery of a church body because we did not join a small group. We had community daily with a variety of churched and unchurched folks,  but if we couldnt commit to a formal small group every week, we werent considered really part of things at a church. One size rarely fits all, especially with 4 young kids and one hour work commutes.</p>
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		<title>By: Todd</title>
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		<dc:creator>Todd</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 May 2008 19:01:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Pat, you are perceptive. I am coming exactly from this perspective.  Joe is a good friend and his books have been very, very influential to how we approach community at The Well...

nice sleuth skills.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Pat, you are perceptive. I am coming exactly from this perspective.  Joe is a good friend and his books have been very, very influential to how we approach community at The Well&#8230;</p>
<p>nice sleuth skills.</p>
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		<title>By: Pat</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 May 2008 04:44:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This topic reminds me a lot of Joe Myers, The Search to Belong.  http://urltea.com/36oc.  I am a huge advocate of small groups, but I know they&#039;re not for everybody. And I think you&#039;re saying what Joe says too - provide different entry points to community and belonging, recognizing that individuals have unique needs.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This topic reminds me a lot of Joe Myers, The Search to Belong.  <a href="http://urltea.com/36oc" rel="nofollow">http://urltea.com/36oc</a>.  I am a huge advocate of small groups, but I know they&#8217;re not for everybody. And I think you&#8217;re saying what Joe says too &#8211; provide different entry points to community and belonging, recognizing that individuals have unique needs.</p>
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		<title>By: Paul</title>
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		<dc:creator>Paul</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 May 2008 21:59:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>When my church first started a small group ministry about 7 years ago or so we were committed to being &quot;a church of small groups.&quot;  About a year ago though we started thinking that small groups are not the right fit for everone so we developed what we call &quot;Next Step Partnerships&quot; (NSP) which include small groups, serving teams, prayer partnerships, and in the future mentoring relationships and recovery groups.

In retrospect, however, I&#039;m starting to question whether that was the right move.  First, it&#039;s created a lot of confusion.  People are constantly asking the difference between a small group and a NSP and the differences between various types of NSPs.  The confusion has resulted in many people not participating in any NSP.

Additionally, some people - particularly those more spiritually mature - have opted for one-on-one prayer partnerships, which they like, but takes them out of a setting where they are in close relationships with other members of the church.  As a result some less spiritually mature members of the church are probably not getting the opportunity to learn from, question, observe, etc from the veteran Christians.

So, I&#039;m starting to think maybe being &quot;a church of small groups&quot; is the best option.  It may not be a biblical mandate, but Jesus had a small group, Acts speaks of meeting in homes.  God designed us each to live in a biological small group (aka family), perhaps asking everyone to be in a spiritual small group is best as wel.

Just thinking out loud.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When my church first started a small group ministry about 7 years ago or so we were committed to being &#8220;a church of small groups.&#8221;  About a year ago though we started thinking that small groups are not the right fit for everone so we developed what we call &#8220;Next Step Partnerships&#8221; (NSP) which include small groups, serving teams, prayer partnerships, and in the future mentoring relationships and recovery groups.</p>
<p>In retrospect, however, I&#8217;m starting to question whether that was the right move.  First, it&#8217;s created a lot of confusion.  People are constantly asking the difference between a small group and a NSP and the differences between various types of NSPs.  The confusion has resulted in many people not participating in any NSP.</p>
<p>Additionally, some people &#8211; particularly those more spiritually mature &#8211; have opted for one-on-one prayer partnerships, which they like, but takes them out of a setting where they are in close relationships with other members of the church.  As a result some less spiritually mature members of the church are probably not getting the opportunity to learn from, question, observe, etc from the veteran Christians.</p>
<p>So, I&#8217;m starting to think maybe being &#8220;a church of small groups&#8221; is the best option.  It may not be a biblical mandate, but Jesus had a small group, Acts speaks of meeting in homes.  God designed us each to live in a biological small group (aka family), perhaps asking everyone to be in a spiritual small group is best as wel.</p>
<p>Just thinking out loud.</p>
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		<title>By: Dubsy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dubsy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 May 2008 17:21:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Interesting thoughts.
Our church here in South-central Alabama just began what we&#039;re calling Karis groups. It&#039;s not a program so-to-speak but rather an informal gathering of 2-5 people. We have this rad pamphlet that has some pretty probing questions for accountability and reflection (which hopefully would lead to confession and openness). The group I&#039;m involved in rarely uses the pamphlet, we&#039;re reading through William Guthrie&#039;s The Christian&#039;s Great Interest (Banner of Truth, Puritan Paperback). 

I think the point is to create guidelines  or suggestions for people who have been raised in me-and-jesus church culture their whole lives to become more God&#039;s-people/kingdom/community-minded.

diggin your blog man!

PS - Helvetica was a good choice!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting thoughts.<br />
Our church here in South-central Alabama just began what we&#8217;re calling Karis groups. It&#8217;s not a program so-to-speak but rather an informal gathering of 2-5 people. We have this rad pamphlet that has some pretty probing questions for accountability and reflection (which hopefully would lead to confession and openness). The group I&#8217;m involved in rarely uses the pamphlet, we&#8217;re reading through William Guthrie&#8217;s The Christian&#8217;s Great Interest (Banner of Truth, Puritan Paperback). </p>
<p>I think the point is to create guidelines  or suggestions for people who have been raised in me-and-jesus church culture their whole lives to become more God&#8217;s-people/kingdom/community-minded.</p>
<p>diggin your blog man!</p>
<p>PS &#8211; Helvetica was a good choice!</p>
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		<title>By: Ryan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ryan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 May 2008 16:03:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We&#039;re working toward a type of groups that are essentially mission groups (we&#039;re not yet sure what to call them). I&#039;m official done with groups that are nothing more than thereputic feel-good sessions where scripture is martialed to make my life work.

Instead we are beginning to form groups around missional challenges - questions. Scripture then plays an enormous role in shaping our lives around 
God&#039;s intention both for our lives and the life of the world. They are also very action oriented. In other words, we gather together to form our lives around what God&#039;s is doing in the world and then act, in mission, together.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We&#8217;re working toward a type of groups that are essentially mission groups (we&#8217;re not yet sure what to call them). I&#8217;m official done with groups that are nothing more than thereputic feel-good sessions where scripture is martialed to make my life work.</p>
<p>Instead we are beginning to form groups around missional challenges &#8211; questions. Scripture then plays an enormous role in shaping our lives around<br />
God&#8217;s intention both for our lives and the life of the world. They are also very action oriented. In other words, we gather together to form our lives around what God&#8217;s is doing in the world and then act, in mission, together.</p>
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