Comments on: Are You Plugged-In? http://www.toddhiestand.com/are-you-plugged-in/11/ Missional Living in Suburban America Wed, 17 Mar 2010 11:14:16 -0700 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: Justin http://www.toddhiestand.com/are-you-plugged-in/11/comment-page-1/#comment-35626 Justin Tue, 04 Dec 2007 13:19:50 +0000 http://www.toddhiestand.com/are-you-plugged-in/11/#comment-35626 Todd, Thanks so much for these thoughts, and for pointing us to Keel's book. At our church we are trying to redesign what formal membership looks like, and this was helpful along those lines. I just forwarded your post to my co-pastors. Oh, and Mel says hi! Todd,
Thanks so much for these thoughts, and for pointing us to Keel’s book. At our church we are trying to redesign what formal membership looks like, and this was helpful along those lines. I just forwarded your post to my co-pastors.
Oh, and Mel says hi!

]]> By: Tom http://www.toddhiestand.com/are-you-plugged-in/11/comment-page-1/#comment-35544 Tom Sat, 01 Dec 2007 16:30:14 +0000 http://www.toddhiestand.com/are-you-plugged-in/11/#comment-35544 Todd, it could be a language thing too. Maybe we need to abandon the word "programs" and replace it with the word "structures." When we use the word programs, especially in an ecclesiastical setting, it almost always implies longevity. Rare is the church who subscribes to the notion that when the horse is dead it's time to dismount. On the other hand, structures, at least in my opinion, imply support, something created in service to something greater: namely, mission or, better yet, people. Todd, it could be a language thing too. Maybe we need to abandon the word “programs” and replace it with the word “structures.” When we use the word programs, especially in an ecclesiastical setting, it almost always implies longevity. Rare is the church who subscribes to the notion that when the horse is dead it’s time to dismount. On the other hand, structures, at least in my opinion, imply support, something created in service to something greater: namely, mission or, better yet, people.

]]> By: Todd http://www.toddhiestand.com/are-you-plugged-in/11/comment-page-1/#comment-35362 Todd Wed, 28 Nov 2007 15:28:09 +0000 http://www.toddhiestand.com/are-you-plugged-in/11/#comment-35362 'mas, yeah i think expectations is a big thing for those who were part of this small group. if they expect to fit right back in easily, they will be gravely disappointed. if they understand that what they had doesn't happen overnight, they will probably be more inclined to stick it out and do the hard work of community. ‘mas, yeah i think expectations is a big thing for those who were part of this small group. if they expect to fit right back in easily, they will be gravely disappointed. if they understand that what they had doesn’t happen overnight, they will probably be more inclined to stick it out and do the hard work of community.

]]> By: 'Mas http://www.toddhiestand.com/are-you-plugged-in/11/comment-page-1/#comment-35360 'Mas Wed, 28 Nov 2007 15:03:14 +0000 http://www.toddhiestand.com/are-you-plugged-in/11/#comment-35360 Makes sense to me. At our previous church, I led a home Bible study group that took about 2 years to gel and then lasted for several before life changes disintegrated it. The members are looking to re-connect after a year because it left a major hole. This is not something can be done quick. As far as programs are concerned, I think the terminology is part of the problem. I didn't "plug-in" to a church until I got involved with one or more ministries. Being in service side by side with other believers goes a lot farther to forging solid connections than several programs can - and definitely more than just attending on Sunday can. That's my 2 cents :^{> Makes sense to me. At our previous church, I led a home Bible study group that took about 2 years to gel and then lasted for several before life changes disintegrated it. The members are looking to re-connect after a year because it left a major hole. This is not something can be done quick.

As far as programs are concerned, I think the terminology is part of the problem. I didn’t “plug-in” to a church until I got involved with one or more ministries. Being in service side by side with other believers goes a lot farther to forging solid connections than several programs can – and definitely more than just attending on Sunday can.

That’s my 2 cents :^{>

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