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	<title>Comments on: &#9733; Barna Describes Casual Christians</title>
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		<title>By: adam lehman</title>
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		<dc:creator>adam lehman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 May 2009 14:32:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Todd,

Compelling quote. Good stuff. 

As a youth pastor, I get a firsthand look at how the faith of adults passes on to the next generation. The students&#039; faith issues are those of their parents - only amplified and more obvious (because they haven&#039;t learned all the &quot;christian-eze&quot; yet). 

Sometimes it is the &quot;christian&quot; teenagers that I have the hardest time communicating with. They hear my words, but they already understand most of faith to be lived passively.

HOWEVER. those students I have - who are from outside of the christian subculture - totally get it. they are the ones who understand what the word &quot;faith&quot; really requires of their life.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Todd,</p>
<p>Compelling quote. Good stuff. </p>
<p>As a youth pastor, I get a firsthand look at how the faith of adults passes on to the next generation. The students&#8217; faith issues are those of their parents &#8211; only amplified and more obvious (because they haven&#8217;t learned all the &#8220;christian-eze&#8221; yet). </p>
<p>Sometimes it is the &#8220;christian&#8221; teenagers that I have the hardest time communicating with. They hear my words, but they already understand most of faith to be lived passively.</p>
<p>HOWEVER. those students I have &#8211; who are from outside of the christian subculture &#8211; totally get it. they are the ones who understand what the word &#8220;faith&#8221; really requires of their life.</p>
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		<title>By: David W. Congdon</title>
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		<dc:creator>David W. Congdon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 May 2009 14:06:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Fairly accurate description of most Christians in the U.S., I suspect.

I think it&#039;s a bit ironic, however, that Barna&#039;s own book, Revolution, seems to advocate precisely this kind of Christianity. He surely doesn&#039;t mean to do so, but when he advocates that church in the future can happen on the golf course — well, it doesn&#039;t get much more casual than that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fairly accurate description of most Christians in the U.S., I suspect.</p>
<p>I think it&#8217;s a bit ironic, however, that Barna&#8217;s own book, Revolution, seems to advocate precisely this kind of Christianity. He surely doesn&#8217;t mean to do so, but when he advocates that church in the future can happen on the golf course — well, it doesn&#8217;t get much more casual than that.</p>
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		<title>By: Gerald Hiestand</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gerald Hiestand</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 May 2009 13:55:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ouch. And I think you&#039;re right; too much preaching of a domesticated Gospel. Jesus wants us to be more than a nice person, etc. 

Great thoughts.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ouch. And I think you&#8217;re right; too much preaching of a domesticated Gospel. Jesus wants us to be more than a nice person, etc. </p>
<p>Great thoughts.</p>
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