Comments on: Where Do We Start? Inside or Outside the Church? http://www.toddhiestand.com/bob-roberts-on-church-planting/07/ Missional Living in Suburban America Wed, 23 Jun 2010 00:20:25 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0.1 By: esther http://www.toddhiestand.com/bob-roberts-on-church-planting/07/comment-page-1/#comment-41824 esther Thu, 31 Jul 2008 11:37:40 +0000 http://www.toddhiestand.com/?p=1128#comment-41824 i know this is an older post but i just recently came across your blog and i was immediately drawn into this entry. what you are talking about is something that really resonates with me. my girlfriends and are in the process of beginning an outreach to the elderly. we are going to be going into a home and doing a story hour, song time with our young kids and the elderly can sit around and watch or join in. we love the many layers to this idea beacause it is something that we can and are inviting anyone to join us in. just yesterday i met a young mom at the park and invited her to come and be a part of it. i dont believe she is a christian but i also dont believe that it matters. i know this is an older post but i just recently came across your blog and i was immediately drawn into this entry. what you are talking about is something that really resonates with me. my girlfriends and are in the process of beginning an outreach to the elderly. we are going to be going into a home and doing a story hour, song time with our young kids and the elderly can sit around and watch or join in. we love the many layers to this idea beacause it is something that we can and are inviting anyone to join us in. just yesterday i met a young mom at the park and invited her to come and be a part of it. i dont believe she is a christian but i also dont believe that it matters.

]]> By: Malcolm http://www.toddhiestand.com/bob-roberts-on-church-planting/07/comment-page-1/#comment-41767 Malcolm Thu, 17 Jul 2008 10:22:54 +0000 http://www.toddhiestand.com/?p=1128#comment-41767 Hey Todd... good post. Good stuff to think about. I think that our ultimate goals should be outside of the church... or at a minimum our church based ministry [i.e. discipleship] should have the goal of making disciples that go outside the church to do ministry. Our discipleship with the churches should have the goal of reproducing followers of Jesus that goes to our Jerusalem, Judea, Samaria and the remotest parts of the world. Hey Todd… good post. Good stuff to think about.

I think that our ultimate goals should be outside of the church… or at a minimum our church based ministry [i.e. discipleship] should have the goal of making disciples that go outside the church to do ministry.

Our discipleship with the churches should have the goal of reproducing followers of Jesus that goes to our Jerusalem, Judea, Samaria and the remotest parts of the world.

]]> By: Todd http://www.toddhiestand.com/bob-roberts-on-church-planting/07/comment-page-1/#comment-41756 Todd Wed, 16 Jul 2008 17:01:35 +0000 http://www.toddhiestand.com/?p=1128#comment-41756 Adam, yeah. a great vision or teenagers and great training for them. for too long we've trained christian kids to stay in the safety of the bubble. what better way to get them out there than along with mentors? of course, i am guessing that your biggest fight will not be getting the kids to engage, it will be getting the parents to realize that youth group is not primarily there to keep their kids safe from the world and untarnished by it. Its to make them into disciples. Suburban parents love the safety of the church bubble. Adam, yeah. a great vision or teenagers and great training for them. for too long we’ve trained christian kids to stay in the safety of the bubble. what better way to get them out there than along with mentors?

of course, i am guessing that your biggest fight will not be getting the kids to engage, it will be getting the parents to realize that youth group is not primarily there to keep their kids safe from the world and untarnished by it. Its to make them into disciples. Suburban parents love the safety of the church bubble.

]]> By: Adam Lehman http://www.toddhiestand.com/bob-roberts-on-church-planting/07/comment-page-1/#comment-41755 Adam Lehman Wed, 16 Jul 2008 16:56:19 +0000 http://www.toddhiestand.com/?p=1128#comment-41755 Todd. Great quote. I think it illustrates a reality inside of me. Though I've never been able to name it, i find myself so focused on those outside of the church. I've recently become the director of student ministries at a suburban church in Powell, OH. My dream for the student ministry is to be a community of students who are so outward focused. I think this is attractive to the rest of the world and I think it is a great training for teenage Christians. so yeah. Adam Todd.
Great quote. I think it illustrates a reality inside of me. Though I’ve never been able to name it, i find myself so focused on those outside of the church.

I’ve recently become the director of student ministries at a suburban church in Powell, OH. My dream for the student ministry is to be a community of students who are so outward focused. I think this is attractive to the rest of the world and I think it is a great training for teenage Christians.

so yeah.

Adam

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