Comments on: ★ Economic Stimulus or Missional Stimulus? http://www.toddhiestand.com/economic-stimulus-or-missional-stimulus/05/ Field Notes on Bi-Vocational Church Leadership in Suburban America Sat, 04 Feb 2012 14:10:07 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Deb http://www.toddhiestand.com/economic-stimulus-or-missional-stimulus/05/comment-page-1/#comment-41481 Deb Tue, 20 May 2008 15:28:35 +0000 http://www.toddhiestand.com/?p=1071#comment-41481 Here's an interesting factoid from a survey done in February from CHH CompleteTax on how individuals are intending to use their stimulus checks. Apparently most Americans have no plans to actually spend their stimulus checks - only 21% said they would spend. 32% are looking to save theirs and then a whopping 47% are going to pay down existing debt. Leaves one to wonder how much economic stimuluation is it really going to provide? Here’s an interesting factoid from a survey done in February from CHH CompleteTax on how individuals are intending to use their stimulus checks. Apparently most Americans have no plans to actually spend their stimulus checks – only 21% said they would spend. 32% are looking to save theirs and then a whopping 47% are going to pay down existing debt. Leaves one to wonder how much economic stimuluation is it really going to provide?

]]> By: Tim http://www.toddhiestand.com/economic-stimulus-or-missional-stimulus/05/comment-page-1/#comment-41435 Tim Fri, 16 May 2008 05:33:28 +0000 http://www.toddhiestand.com/?p=1071#comment-41435 Hey Todd, I have to agree with you on this. Unfortunately, we all seem to find ourselves in a position where we put ourselves into some form of debt. I do not think it is intentional. What would 300.00 - 600.00 do for me at this current moment? It would drop the amount of money I have wasted on my credit card near to "0." It would also help me pay for my car payment; another "need" I gave myself. I do not like debt though I know for the majority of those in this great nation, it is something we often have to deal with. I am convinced that though we are given the money to go out and buy a TV or a bowling ball, we should probably help out our nation by reducing the amount of individual debt we have so that when push comes to shove, we can feel better about ourselves and our current position. Thanks for the post. Hey Todd,

I have to agree with you on this. Unfortunately, we all seem to find ourselves in a position where we put ourselves into some form of debt. I do not think it is intentional. What would 300.00 – 600.00 do for me at this current moment? It would drop the amount of money I have wasted on my credit card near to “0.” It would also help me pay for my car payment; another “need” I gave myself. I do not like debt though I know for the majority of those in this great nation, it is something we often have to deal with. I am convinced that though we are given the money to go out and buy a TV or a bowling ball, we should probably help out our nation by reducing the amount of individual debt we have so that when push comes to shove, we can feel better about ourselves and our current position. Thanks for the post.

]]> By: Josh Frank http://www.toddhiestand.com/economic-stimulus-or-missional-stimulus/05/comment-page-1/#comment-41434 Josh Frank Fri, 16 May 2008 02:24:19 +0000 http://www.toddhiestand.com/?p=1071#comment-41434 Hey Bob! Good to run into you!!! Hey Bob! Good to run into you!!!

]]> By: Bob Fisher http://www.toddhiestand.com/economic-stimulus-or-missional-stimulus/05/comment-page-1/#comment-41433 Bob Fisher Fri, 16 May 2008 01:59:03 +0000 http://www.toddhiestand.com/?p=1071#comment-41433 Hey, Todd... Yes, it's sad that our prosperity comes from buying (and selling) stuff we don't need, while so many can't meet their basic needs. The stimulus checks just feed this cycle, and won't help us address the root issue -- we need to figure out how to have a working economy that doesn't consume others' resources. The idea of using the checks to help the poor is catching on... some bishops of the Evangelical Lutheran Church in America are urging people to tithe the checks for that purpose (http://www.jsonline.com/story/index.aspx?id=735804&format=print) Hey Josh! Bob Hey, Todd… Yes, it’s sad that our prosperity comes from buying (and selling) stuff we don’t need, while so many can’t meet their basic needs. The stimulus checks just feed this cycle, and won’t help us address the root issue — we need to figure out how to have a working economy that doesn’t consume others’ resources. The idea of using the checks to help the poor is catching on… some bishops of the Evangelical Lutheran Church in America are urging people to tithe the checks for that purpose (http://www.jsonline.com/story/index.aspx?id=735804&format=print)

Hey Josh!

Bob

]]> By: Carlos Griego http://www.toddhiestand.com/economic-stimulus-or-missional-stimulus/05/comment-page-1/#comment-41431 Carlos Griego Thu, 15 May 2008 20:02:35 +0000 http://www.toddhiestand.com/?p=1071#comment-41431 Todd, I have been thinking about this too, in regards to what we are to do with this rebate check my wife and I will be receiving, At first we both agreed to simply put this money in savings towards eventually buying a house near the University in our town, so this was a missional minded motive I believe. Another thought though was brought to me. This money from our government is not just free money, like finding that roll of 20's, but money given with a specific purpose. The government is giving us this to spend to provide an immediate boost to the economy. We know that the bible is clear about honoring our government so long as it does not go against God's law, so with that how are we to approach the stimulus? AND is NOT spending this money not honoring to those that have given it and therefore in some way being disobedient to God?? I seriously ask this without a real conviction either way and wanted to know your opinion, and anyone else's. Los Todd,
I have been thinking about this too, in regards to what we are to do with this rebate check my wife and I will be receiving, At first we both agreed to simply put this money in savings towards eventually buying a house near the University in our town, so this was a missional minded motive I believe.
Another thought though was brought to me. This money from our government is not just free money, like finding that roll of 20′s, but money given with a specific purpose. The government is giving us this to spend to provide an immediate boost to the economy. We know that the bible is clear about honoring our government so long as it does not go against God’s law, so with that how are we to approach the stimulus? AND is NOT spending this money not honoring to those that have given it and therefore in some way being disobedient to God??
I seriously ask this without a real conviction either way and wanted to know your opinion, and anyone else’s.

Los

]]> By: Todd http://www.toddhiestand.com/economic-stimulus-or-missional-stimulus/05/comment-page-1/#comment-41430 Todd Thu, 15 May 2008 19:38:52 +0000 http://www.toddhiestand.com/?p=1071#comment-41430 Josh, awesome stuff! Thanks for the Link! Josh, awesome stuff! Thanks for the Link!

]]> By: Josh Frank http://www.toddhiestand.com/economic-stimulus-or-missional-stimulus/05/comment-page-1/#comment-41429 Josh Frank Thu, 15 May 2008 19:34:40 +0000 http://www.toddhiestand.com/?p=1071#comment-41429 This is my idea exactly. See the Pentecost Project: pentecostproject.org This is my idea exactly. See the Pentecost Project:
pentecostproject.org

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