John Howard Yoder on Women in “Ministry”

photoYesterday we ordained two great men at The Well. It was a pretty awesome day. More on that later maybe.

Now, it just so happens that each of our pastors is now a man. Hopefully it doesn’t stay that way for too long. I strongly affirm and believe that men and women are equally gifted and called to all areas of leadership and service in the church.

I’ve been reading Body Politics by John Howard Yoder. It is a fantastic little book on “Five Practices of the Christian Community Before a Watching World.”

These five practices are:

  • Binding and Loosing
  • Baptism
  • Eucharist
  • Multiplicity of Gifts
  • Open Meeting

Each chapter has had a few lightbulb moments for me and I’m pretty certain it’s a book I will come back to time and time again. In his chapter on multiplicity of gifts he talks a bit about Ephesians 4, Corinthians, and the multiplicity of gifts in the body of Christ. He works through the metaphor of “body” and how each member is vital to the whole. It is a great chapter and I’ll let you read it yourself for the whole thing.

In this chapter he talks very briefly about men and women in a role he calls “ministry” (quotes are his).

He writes,

What is sweeping across the map in our century is the debate about women in ministry. Assuming there is one role called “ministry,”  whether sacerdotal or episcopal in focus, some denominations agree that women can carry that role, and others, both some of the very catholic and some of the very Protestant, deny it.

The mistake that dominates this debate, the reader will recognize, from the perspective of the Pauline vision, is not in the answers but in the question. There is not (i.e. there should not be) one “ministerial” role, of which then we could argue about whether it is gender specific. There are as many ministerial roles as there are members of the body of Christ, and that means that more than half of them belong to women. The roles least justified by the witness of the New Testament – quite regardless of the gender debate – are those of priest and of (super-congregational) bishop, precisely the ones that some men have traditionally held alone and what to keep for themselves. To let a few women into an office that men have for generations wrongly restricted and did not even exist in the apostolic churches may be a good kind of “affirmative action,” but it is hardly the post profound vision of renewal…

The transformation that Paul’s vision calls for would not be to let a few more especially gifted women share with a few men the rare roles of domination: it would be to reorient the notion of ministry so that there would be no one ungifted, no one not called, no one not empowered, and no one dominated. Only that would live up to Paul’s call to “lead a life worthy of our calling.”

In the margin next to this section I wrote, “Wow” and then near the end “Boom!”.

  • http://geoffreyholsclaw.net/blog/ geoffh

    What I always say, in every context of church leadership, whether or not talking about women, is “CHRIST IS THE HEAD OF THE CHURCH.” (and I say it so you can see the all caps…”

    • ToddHiestand

      Wait Geoff, what are you trying to say? :)

  • Jason

    Great post Todd!

    This is what I have been realizing too: to get truly biblical answers, you have to start with the right questions. Using our modern definitions of ‘pastor’, ‘ministry’, and ‘church’ to ask questions and then expect the Bible to answer them leads us into some pretty nutty places. I’ll be sure to get this book when I get a chance. Don’t know if you are familiar with Frank Viola, but he has many things to say in this area as well.

    Geoffh: Now THAT is a good question. It also needs to be followed by: HOW are we actually putting His Headship into practice in His Church?

    • ToddHiestand

      Thanks Jason. yeah, i think we’re generally unaware of how our cultural baggage influences of reading of the text. its not that we can keep it from influencing our reading, its just that knowing it does goes a long way. I’ve heard of Frank Viola stuff and have read some of it… I’m kinda torn on his stuff. some I find helpful and other times I don’t. :)

  • Andy Rowell

    Yes! If you want to read more, check out Yoder’s book
    Yoder, John Howard. The Fullness of Christ: Paul’s Revolutionary Vision of Universal Ministry. Elgin, Ill: Brethren Pr, 1987.

    • ToddHiestand

      Thanks Andy. I might just pick that book up!

  • http://abnormalanabaptist.wordpress.com/ Robert Martin

    Bingo! YES!

    My mother was a conference minister in the Atlantic Coast Conference up until her death in 2007 so, obviously, I have some bias on this topic. But if we, in the traditionally Anabaptist denominations of Mennonite, etc, believe in the “priesthood of ALL believers” and the gifting of all, then Yoder’s perspective just naturally grows from that.

    Thank you for bringing this out!

  • http://www.facebook.com/shanna.p.cummings Shanna Platt Cummings

    Empowering & equipping the church to be a priesthood of believers! That is beautiful. This is great.