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Preaching and Political Convention Speeches

Here’s my main question: does our preaching give way for conversion or does our preaching simply make those who disagree with us disagree more?

After spending the last two weeks listening to the speeches at the Republican and Democratic National Conventions I realized that there was a strong difference between how I used to preach and how I preach now.

I used to preach, and still sometime do, in similar manner as these conventions. After I was done, those who already agreed with what I was saying cheered me on and told me “that was one of your best sermons.” But, those who disagreed with me would not have said, “You really made me think.”

Why the different reactions? Because my sermons were too much like these recent political speeches.

As I watched them, I realized that there was no way someone who was a strong Democrat would be able to watch McCain or Palin and say something like, “hmm, that’s a good point. I never thought of it that way. Maybe I should think carefully about that.” And, no one who was a strong Republican would have been able to listen to Obama and Biden and say, “Wow, that’s an interesting point. I should think carefully about that.”

No, the reactions were… well, you read them in the papers, the news websites and your blogs. “The Democrats are liberals and will ruin our country!” The Republicans hate human life and want to kill people!”

Why these reactions? I think partly because these speeches, and my early sermons, weren’t so much geared at preaching for conversion of people’s thoughts but rather, it seems that the goal of these speeches, and again my early sermons, was more to show why and how one side is right and the other side is wrong.

Now, I have nothing wrong with believing and speaking things with conviction. In fact, if I did, there would be no point of me continuing to preach. But, a huge challenge to those who preach (and dare I say those who speak in political settings) is to make your case for your side in such a way that allows the other side to begin to see why it is important that you think the way you think.

The fact is, the Democrats are right on a lot of things. The Republicans are right on a lot of things. No, the two sides will never agree with each other. But, I can’t help but think that there is room for a lot more respect of each other.

What I am talking about a difference between being a bully with your words and carefully shepherding with your words.

When I get done preaching, I would honestly rather hear someone say to me, “Your sermon was very thought provoking” than to hear someone say, “your sermon was awesome.”

When someone says, “your sermon was awesome” it usual means they already agreed with me and I just reinforced their previously held belief.

When someone says, “that was thought provoking” it means I really communicated well and made them think about the topic a little differently.

It’s easy to effectively communicate with those who already agree with you.

It’s a whole other challenge to communicate effectively with those who disagree with you.

And pissing them off isn’t necessarily effective communication.

I heard a few times that “Obama really took McCain to task” or “Palin really laid the smack down on Biden.” Well, your side thinks that’s what happened.

But their side just thinks that other person is an idiot.

I’ve gotta wonder, when this happens, how much is really accomplished?

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  • tghali said...

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    09/8/08 10:51 PM | Comment Link |

    Awesome post!!!
    (Just kidding, you reinforced what I thought. Just kidding, you really made me think more along these lines.)
    Can’t agree more. I too prefer pushing people to think differently then receiving their praise.
    Much of our preaching is a pep rally for the hometown. Many times, it has no pep, unfortunately.
    I’d like to add that many times people will like the sermon simply because they like you. I think this is part of the Joel Osteen craze. That’s not really a joke either.
    Certainly our worshippers need to be encouraged, inspired, etc. but we all need to be stretched and pushed. I believe strongly that this is why our Scripture reading tends to suffer because if you don’t spend the time reading, meditating and struggling with it, then you’ll get frustrated and stop reading altogether.

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  • Mitch said...

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    09/9/08 1:30 AM | Comment Link |

    Hi Todd,

    Thanks for writing this.

    I think you’re raising really important questions and ideas. For my job, I spend a lot of time thinking about how people can talk with each other in constructive ways across political and other differences. I work with Jewish folks in particular, but I’m really interested in the conversations that happen in churches too, and in all kinds of other settings.

    I’ve come across a couple of really interesting short articles that I thought you might appreciate. Brian McLaren published a fascinating piece in Sojourners in the summer of 2004 called “Praying for Good Politics.” The essay outlines his ideas about how to speak most effectively about controversial issues from the pulpit, and about how to foster constructive discussion within churches about those issues. You can find it at:

    http://www.alternet.org/election04/19458/praying_for_good_politics/

    This past summer, Rabbi Julie Saxe-Taller, who is a leader in a Jewish peace and justice organization called Brit Tzedek v’Shalom, published a short essay called “3 Strategies for ‘Successful’ Conversations about Israel.” It briefly lays out some fascinating lessons she has learned from engaging with her congregants around controversial issues related to Israel and the Israeli-Palestinian conflict.

    You can find it at: http://ga3.org/btvshalom/notice-description.tcl?newsletter_id=27810108

    Good luck with all you’re doing!

    –Mitch

  • wezlo said...

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    09/9/08 7:12 AM | Comment Link |

    Nice post Todd. I couldn’t even watch the conventions this year, I don’t understand why we should think of something that everyone says, “It’s all scripted, nothing surprising happens on the stage” as high drama.

    I think the problem with a lot of preaching is that it’s about being more right than “them.” I kinda take the tack that sermons ought to be about Jesus and how WE do/don’t reflect him (well, mostly it’s “I,” the rest of the congregation just gets to listen to my wrestling). I sum it up this way, “The mirror shouldn’t be turned outward against people, but on ourselves - with the accompanying question, ‘Do we see Jesus in it?’”

    You’re also right, I’ll take 10, “I’m not sure I agree with you, but you gave me some things to chew on”’s over 1000 “Great sermon, pastor”’s any day of the week.

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  • jim said...

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    09/9/08 8:53 AM | Comment Link |

    Hi Todd, this post is awesome!! ;)

    I like your thoughts here. I wonder are there some specific ways you invite people to consideration? What has changed about your preaching style to invite this kind of thinking?

  • esther said...

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    09/9/08 10:04 AM | Comment Link |

    Todd - funny thing, just minutes before reading your post i was thinking about this same idea! You know I think for people, myself included, sometimes its easier to just stick with our current form of thinking. To be challenged in our beliefs or ideas takes humility on our part and a willingness to say I’m going to research that out or seek God on that topic. Way too much effort! And then as leaders/public speakers its a more challenging route to take to think about how can I get people to explore a different line of thinking - its so much easier to say what we want people to hear. We come out feeling good about ourselves because of the pats on the back for an awesome speech. I am a big fan of iron sharpening iron. I believe that is where the refinement comes and how we can truly accomplish things as one nation/body.

  • ryanb said...

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    09/9/08 4:18 PM | Comment Link |

    Hey Todd… Some interesting statistics/research related to this that was shared with me in a recent seminary class I took. We were talking about this very idea of persuasion and how the brain responds to one-sided appeals (like preaching). When a person is listening to a one-sided appeal, they of course are processing the information at various levels of conciousness. Their brain begins to increase it’s amount of inner speech (a level internal communication in practical conciousness). In a typical conversation, the brain will process through ideas with about 400 words per minute of this inner speech, when a one-sided appeal is being presented, that jumps to 4,000 words per minute. The listener essentially shuts down any possibility of being persuaded and begins to think of all the reasons why they disagree with the speaker. The more intense the appeal, the more intense the inner speech and the less likely someone is to be persuaded. In fact, some research shows that a person listening to a one sided appeal (that they don’t already agree with) will be 80% more likely to be in further disagreement with the person giving the appeal after it’s all said and done.
    It’s interesting to also note, that Jesus had his times of one-sided appeal, but it was typically with a “friendly audience” (i.e. a party convention) who were more likely to nod there heads in agreement (or wave their signs and cheer loudly every thirty seconds). The other times he seems to use the one sided appeal is when the result of any type of conversation is a fairly foregone conclusion and it’s a quick way to make a point and get out of a situation (such as with the Pharisees).
    Finding ways to effectively preach is definitely a challenge!

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  • scott said...

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    09/15/08 9:58 PM | Comment Link |

    I agree with your assessment. The role I have play at onevillagecoffee.com has shown me what my giftings are. My response has been to develop new relationships in the DE, MD, D.C, VA area for our mission to help the world one village at a time.

    Go eagles!

    love you man…

    hope to hang out soon…

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