Comments on: ★ They Like the Church But Not Jesus? http://www.toddhiestand.com/they-like-the-church-but-not-jesus/08/ Field Notes on Bi-Vocational Church Leadership in Suburban America Sat, 04 Feb 2012 14:10:07 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Todd http://www.toddhiestand.com/they-like-the-church-but-not-jesus/08/comment-page-1/#comment-28216 Todd Mon, 27 Aug 2007 02:42:21 +0000 http://www.toddhiestand.com/they-like-the-church-but-not-jesus/08/#comment-28216 Josh, makes sense. that's what happens when you read something by someone you don't know well :) what you said the second time... wonderful! Josh, makes sense. that’s what happens when you read something by someone you don’t know well :)

what you said the second time… wonderful!

]]> By: Wezlo http://www.toddhiestand.com/they-like-the-church-but-not-jesus/08/comment-page-1/#comment-28181 Wezlo Sun, 26 Aug 2007 10:38:46 +0000 http://www.toddhiestand.com/they-like-the-church-but-not-jesus/08/#comment-28181 Yup, that's a great question. A lot of folks in both "Institutional" and "Cool" Churches love the community - but Jesus is considered just too dang hard to pursue with any diligence. Some folks'll never get that Jesus is the heartbeat of the Church - others simply need to be challenged again and again and again with things they believe that couldn't possible do and they'll be Jesus along the way. Yup, that’s a great question. A lot of folks in both “Institutional” and “Cool” Churches love the community – but Jesus is considered just too dang hard to pursue with any diligence. Some folks’ll never get that Jesus is the heartbeat of the Church – others simply need to be challenged again and again and again with things they believe that couldn’t possible do and they’ll be Jesus along the way.

]]> By: Josh http://www.toddhiestand.com/they-like-the-church-but-not-jesus/08/comment-page-1/#comment-28163 Josh Sun, 26 Aug 2007 03:37:00 +0000 http://www.toddhiestand.com/they-like-the-church-but-not-jesus/08/#comment-28163 Todd, I agree with rethinking ways of doing church that makes sense to our particular cultures. Perhaps I wasn't clear. When churches do it in authentic ways I'm all for it. But when it's done because of the trendy nature of it, then I wonder why. There's always the temptation to do something because it works without it fitting the character and makeup of a congregation. When a congregation discovers how God has gifted it...when they see the uniqueness of what God has brought together in the people of the community of faith...when they make that relevent...that's what excites me. thanks... Todd, I agree with rethinking ways of doing church that makes sense to our particular cultures. Perhaps I wasn’t clear. When churches do it in authentic ways I’m all for it. But when it’s done because of the trendy nature of it, then I wonder why. There’s always the temptation to do something because it works without it fitting the character and makeup of a congregation. When a congregation discovers how God has gifted it…when they see the uniqueness of what God has brought together in the people of the community of faith…when they make that relevent…that’s what excites me. thanks…

]]> By: Todd http://www.toddhiestand.com/they-like-the-church-but-not-jesus/08/comment-page-1/#comment-28061 Todd Fri, 24 Aug 2007 21:18:45 +0000 http://www.toddhiestand.com/they-like-the-church-but-not-jesus/08/#comment-28061 josh, i guess i don't have a problem with rethinking ways of doing church that make sense to a culture (that's always been the job of missionaries after all). i just want the hard work of service to be what really defines us... josh, i guess i don’t have a problem with rethinking ways of doing church that make sense to a culture (that’s always been the job of missionaries after all). i just want the hard work of service to be what really defines us…

]]> By: Josh http://www.toddhiestand.com/they-like-the-church-but-not-jesus/08/comment-page-1/#comment-28060 Josh Fri, 24 Aug 2007 20:59:50 +0000 http://www.toddhiestand.com/they-like-the-church-but-not-jesus/08/#comment-28060 I've always wondered why we've tried to reinvent ways of doing 'culturally cool' church instead of trying to discover better ways of being the church to our community. I guess it's easier to reinvent yourself than to do the hard work of service. I’ve always wondered why we’ve tried to reinvent ways of doing ‘culturally cool’ church instead of trying to discover better ways of being the church to our community. I guess it’s easier to reinvent yourself than to do the hard work of service.

]]> By: Subers http://www.toddhiestand.com/they-like-the-church-but-not-jesus/08/comment-page-1/#comment-28058 Subers Fri, 24 Aug 2007 20:40:37 +0000 http://www.toddhiestand.com/they-like-the-church-but-not-jesus/08/#comment-28058 Todd, this is an important point that you make. It is a good constructive criticism of a potential pit fall The Well might face. I hope that those in the "cool church" are submitting their lives to christ as best they can, and in prayer. Todd, this is an important point that you make. It is a good constructive criticism of a potential pit fall The Well might face. I hope that those in the “cool church” are submitting their lives to christ as best they can, and in prayer.

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